Jul. 10th, 2011

elke_tanzer: autumn web (autumn web)
[personal profile] elke_tanzer
Thing #423 which I didn't realize I needed to be concerned about when I activated G+: Google encouraging-vs-requiring people to use photographs of our own faces as profile images. *headdesk* It looks like at this point, they're "encouraging", not "requiring" for all G+ users. Can I just keep linking folks to http://geekfeminism.org/2011/07/08/social-networking-requirements/ again and again, please?

I have just stumbled upon these, which relate to the names issue, the gender-in-profile issue, and also the issue of possibly being required to use photos of our own faces as our profile photo:
https://plus.google.com/106792630639449031994/posts/4v29vbteeG5
https://plus.google.com/106792630639449031994/posts/DEivCBm4qxs
https://plus.google.com/117198316664830078863/posts/GGjc1oqWxa9
https://plus.google.com/117198316664830078863/posts/EWFCZLEMf5r

Of course, http://www.google.com/intl/en-US/+/policy/content.html is also pertinent to all of these issues.

(crossposted to my G+ at https://plus.google.com/107619776564880847214/posts/KmQHcyxAUGi )
rising: sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupid (r: sarcasm)
[personal profile] rising
I participated a small amount in a bit of the name/nym discussion on a post. This is one of the discussions in which we had privileged white men going all that real names were good, and about five minutes into my discussion, I found that I was getting an error -- my profile had been reported, and apparently suspended. There are people like that out there.

If you're using a pseudonym be careful of taking part in any public discussion, whatsoever.
justhuman: (oil)
[personal profile] justhuman
I decided to link in my Picasa photos to my G+ account. Now this Picasa account is my fannish one, so there is nothing that I would want to hide. Still... exposure.

When I was linking my national park pictures on my LJ, I assumed a limited audience that would see my posts and follow my links. Also, some of the odder pics had context in my write ups. The galleries were public, so that someone looking from a search page would see a "random someone's" national park pics.

So if someone's looking at my G+, they're hit with all my public galleries, with or without context.

I played with logging in and logging out last night and you can limit the visibility in G+ of picasa pics by marking them as "share with anyone who has the link"

Then you can share the photos with a circle and keep them semi-private.

Now we reach the next level of privacy question, which is an existing privacy issue.

If I give a link on my LJ to a group of folks, they can repost the link.
If I share "with a link" picassa pics on G+, they can immediately re-share my pics.

This is the same security issue, but to me there is something about the ease and speed that this information will move using an easy button click verses someone creating a post.
justhuman: (oil)
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What I'm getting from the discussion is G+'s intent is to create a sitewide community standard, based on an old principle to the internet. When e-mail and bulletin boards were a new thing on the new internet, people said a lot of things -- a lot of things that moderators were sure that they wouldn't say using their own names.

I'm sure that's reaching in some cases, based on what I've heard in RL human spaces, but to an extent there was a point. Many people wouldn't have been as rude if they had known that they're employer might be reading and could link it to them. So it seems to me that G+ aim is pushing that community standard of politeness, except they are trying to extend it sitewide.

This doesn't serve fannish interests and ignores more than a decade of internet reality. The fannish community standard of communication is very different than the general public standard. I mean we put up a post and say we want to talk about graphic sex, toss up a cut tag and politeness has been observed. In that way our community is self-regulating. For good or bad we have plenty of mechanisms for regulating conversations within the community, even if it means subdividing into specialized groups. All the varied internet communities have done the same.

Journal Sites (LJ, Dreamwidth and the clones) wer really a proto-social networking site. I remember the fannish bristling years ago when LJ self-identified as a social networking platform. We as users saw a substantial difference between communication on LJ verses MySpace and Facebook. And while there is a substantial difference in the way we communicate, I don't think anyone doubts that LJ is a form of social networking nowadays.

The big difference? Ease of sharing information. Facebook automates sharing details - it tells anyone I've ever chatted with that yesterday I said I liked NCIS and wanted to read the feed from Buy.Com. It has one button ability to let people that watch me know that I've been chatting about some interest that people didn't know I had.

In contrast in LJ, I can join a comm about corgi breeding and no one on my f-list would know about it unless they chose to cruise my profile and look up my comms. Or, you know, I chose to tell everyone about it. I haven't played with it in a while, but I believe we can also hide our comm list, so on LJ I could indulge my fannish and corgi interests and neither community would have to know about the other.

And when that was not enough separation, it's no big deal on LJ to create multiple pseuds to indulge in divergent interests.

G+ is not just trying to create a community standard. They are trying to create a site-wide community, based on the idea that people are more polite when they are using their real names. How successful executing this concept will be, including verifying people are using their real names, is yet to be seen and you can place your bets.

Based on this, I find it difficult to see a way that fandom could create an independent fiefdom, like we have on LJ and Dreamwidth
elke_tanzer: Why yes, I do have a file on that. (TW file on that)
[personal profile] elke_tanzer
I just posted the following linkspam to my G+, at https://plus.google.com/u/1/107619776564880847214/posts/9DqSD5QFVx1 , but in case I get TOSed, I wanted to archive it here as well.

ETA: I have a recommendation for anyone indecisive about whether to activate an account for their fannish name or for their legal name or some other name entirely, and whether they want to activate more than one account: Wait a few days. It's OK to take your time. This may not turn out to be a great fannish platform, after all.

OMG this got long )
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